Ramiro is at the tip of the spear when it comes to creating privacy oriented tech & software. We spoke to him about his "degoogled" 'Above Phone,' asked him who is worse; Apple or Google & discussed Netflix's new movie "Leave the World Behind."
Listen: https://thefreethoughtproject.com/podcast/podcast-ramiro-romani-how-to-take-back-our-tech-starve-the-technocrats